The ADL’s Role In Supporting Mearsheimer and Walt September 6
So I just heard an interesting interview on NPR (fresh air) with Walt (of Mearsheimer and Walt) about their new book, “The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy”. This interview was followed by one with Abraham Foxman, the national director of the Anti-Defamation League and author of “The Deadliest Lies: The Israel Lobby and the Myth of Jewish Control.” Now Walt’s arguments seemed silly, factually dubious and subtly fallacious, in other words exactly what I expect for any public policy discussion, particularly those involving Israel, but he certainly didn’t appear even slightly antisemitic. Now to be fair Foxman didn’t technically call either Mearsheimer or Walt an antisemite in the interview I heard1 but he did call Walt and Mearsheimer’s argument a, “sinister antisemitic canard,” accuse them of “defamation of the Jewish community” and do his best to imply they were no different than Pat Buchanan or David Duke not to mention running afoul of Godwin’s Law. Ironically while Foxman blasts M&W for aiding and abetting antisemitism his outraged denunciations do an order of magnitude more harm than Mearsheimer and Walt would have done on their own.
In short I think that Mearsheimer and Walt certainly ought to be blamed for foolishly adopting some silly beliefs and presenting them poorly I think just as much blame lies with their opponents for encouraging people to take this crap seriously. The fact that we tend to blame only one side not the other regardless of the causal impact of their choices is yet another deep seated human irrationality that always seems to bite us in the ass. I argue for this views at far too much length below.
Mearsheimer and Walt’s book builds on their controversial 2006 article in the London Review of Books where they criticize the influence of the “Israel Lobby” on US politics and accuse it of distorting our foreign policy to the detriment of both the US and Israel. Just as in the interview the article made a point of saying that the “Israel Lobby” included a great many non-Jews while many Jews weren’t part of it and disapproved of it’s tactics. Still, I think the article could have been worded more carefully since on a subject like this the following sentence just invites confusion.
And because Jewish voters have high turn-out rates and are concentrated in key states like California, Florida, Illinois, New York and Pennsylvania, presidential candidates go to great lengths not to antagonise them.
And this one is just as problematic.
The Lobby doesn’t want an open debate, of course, because that might lead Americans to question the level of support they provide. Accordingly, pro-Israel organisations work hard to influence the institutions that do most to shape popular opinion.
Now my overall perception from the article is that M&W are merely making (potentially false) claims about political influence. Claims that would be unremarkable if he had explained say the tendency of government aid to flow to the middle class rather than the most needy by a reference to the disproportionate political power of white suburbanites and suggesting that your opponents don’t want an open debate appears to be de rigueur in American political discourse. However, when discussing a subject like this with obvious potential for misinterpretation it is negligent not to word this more carefully. Still, poor wording is hardly a capital offense and in the interview Walt went out of his way to clarify these sorts of misconceptions, e.g., emphasizing that he didn’t view it as disloyal or even wrong to support Israel only that the policies the “Israel Lobby” supported were horribly misguided.
Now merely from a rhetorical point of view it would be bad tactics to respond to the calm reasonable sounding academic with an outraged lecture about the role of disloyalty accusations in the Soviet and Nazi genocides but when the individual your criticizing credibly denies making any such allegation at all it just plays to the (mostly false2) idea that accusations of antisemitism are being used to stop any discussion. As if this tactic wasn’t foolish enough Foxman responds to the idea of a hard right “Israel Lobby” by snapping, “Why is it their business how the American Jewish community works?” Not only is this a terrible argument (voting patterns are everyone’s business) but there is no more surefire way to convince people your covering up a dark secret than to tell them something is none of their business. Why do you think the UFO buffs simply won’t accept the fact that Area 51 is just a boring aircraft research facility?
I understand why Foxman has the reaction to M&W that he does. Obviously talking about the “Israel Lobby” and their ‘sinister’ goals is a way to disparage the people who disagree with you. If you are primed to respond to the standard antisemitic slurs about Jewish disloyalty or conspiratorial power when you hear someone blaming the “Israel Lobby” using dubious evidence you are going to hear exactly what you expected to hear. Human psychology just works like that, especially about particularly emotional issues.
Unfortunately, the sort of underhanded argumentative move that M&W pull of dehumanizing the people who disagree with you by giving them an intimidating name, whether it is “Israel Lobby,” “big business,” “military industrial complex,” “agribusiness,” “the religious right,” or “liberal” is all to common. People think their ideas are obviously right and need an explanation for why other people disagree with them. Lacking my arrogance most people feel a tension between how obvious the conclusion feels to them and the idea there are a bunch of other folk like them who think the exact opposite so they resolve it by dehumanizing their opponents with a big scary name which lets them conceptualize themselves as the underdog nobly fighting the good fight. I think this is a much more plausible explanation of M&W’s motivations than any sort of antisemitic agenda.
Yes, the arguments made in M&W’s paper and presumably the ones in the book as well are extremely poor. In addition to the dubious factual claims they barely touch the substantive issue: what policy should the US take towards Israel. However, while I respect them less as a result and I wish academics would do better I’m hardly surprised. This is the same kinda of emotionally loaded but irrelevant crap one always sees in political discourse, especially when it involves Israel and Palestine. Even otherwise rational people start citing dubious historical events and making totally irrelevant arguments about who is at ‘fault’ for the current situation instead of asking what would be most likely to fix the problem. It is no more antisemitic when the anti-Israel side does it than it is anti-Muslim when hard line pro-Israeli partisans do.
Is it the case that M&W’s article and book provides aid and comfort for antisemitic elements? Well I’m sure some of them will get a kick out of reading it but it isn’t neo-Nazis feeling smug that we want to avoid it’s increased membership and I’m skeptical M&W’s work is going to aid in recruitment. It people like David Irving who let the neo-Nazi types feel that the truth is on their side but it is being suppressed by conspiracy. Moreover, by Foxman’s own theory he is just as culpable as M&W. He blames M&W for mainstreaming the concern about the “Jewish Lobby” to the point where it is being discussed on NPR but that never would have happened with the accusations of antisemitism and the like from people like him. Had the ADL and other Jewish groups reacted with a shrug and merely debunked M&W’s arguments instead of becoming outraged M&W’s article would have died the obscure death it deserved.
Even if their work was likely to encourage neo-Nazis this doesn’t mean it is any more morally culpable for them to publish it. After all we don’t think that scientists are blameworthy for not suppressing experimental results suggesting that certain gender differences have biological causes even if we later find them to have made a mistake. Yes, I think one can make the case that subjects like this require greater care and thus M&W are to be blamed for not exercising greater thought and care in both forming and presenting their views. However, any theory that holds people to a higher standard about racially sensitive subjects because of the greater risk of harm cuts both ways. If M&W are to be blamed for not questioning their emotionally laden beliefs about US policy towards Israel or not taking more care to avoid encouraging antisemitism than so too should Abraham Foxman for not questioning his assumptions about the nature and motivation of M&W’s view and especially for responding in a way that, under his own theory, aids genuine antisemites.
I think we should blame both of them but they are venial sins not reasons to shun them.
Don’t get me wrong. I think M&W’s arguments are a pile of crap. I just don’t think the responses to it have been much better nor do I think that it’s much worse than what I’ve come to expect from political dialog in this country. Mostly I agree with this post about the matter except I’m far more cynical about political discourse in general. The reason I care about the issues is that I’m bothered by the hypocritical standard about when we blame people for encouraging antisemitism. If we are really interested in what matters (stamping out antisemitism) then any behavior that can reasonably be seen to encourage antisemitism should be equally blameworthy but in practice we don’t judge blame based on actual impact but by sorting them out into sides. Of course this is hardly unique to antisemitism, it is the same reason that people are more interested in what you believe about affirmative action than why, but this was what made me think about it this morning.
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According to Terry Gross (the interviewer) Foxman avoids calling Mearsheimer and Walt antisemites in his book as well though Walt claimed Foxman has made the accusation in the past. Either way it’s really beside the point since Foxman clearly believes their arguments are antisemitic and they bear significant moral blame for making them. Though I don’t really think Foxman is suggesting that it is a property of the belief itself that makes is antisemitic (presumably it wouldn’t be antisemitic if it was true). Rather I think he is just (wisely) toning down his rhetoric a bit. ↩
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Obviously accusations of antisemitism are sometimes overused, for instance the very situation at hand, and they do sometimes improperly inhibit consideration of ideas. For example if you try to have a fully hypothetical discussion about whether it was morally wrong to place Israel in the middle east you will get some inappropriate push back no matter how you qualify your claim. However, it’s no different than the push back you get for suggesting that the currently living descendants of slaves in the US are better off as a result of slavery (plausible theory but unrelated to the question of whether slavery was justified). In other words it happens but no more so than with any politically sensitive group. ↩
Re: Dr. Duke
Exposing the liars is all that matters. If you don’t listen to all sides, you are not seeking truth. Dr. David Duke’s world wide best selling book “Jewish Supremacism” is free to download at The Pirate Bay dot com in MP3 format. While this free spoken word book is several hours long, it is broken up into individual files each about 30 minutes in length. Listen to it during lunch and see if you or your friends can find any lies at all. While listening to Dr. Duke, one comes to understand that he is not like the controlled mass media would have you believe. Dr. Duke is an extremely intelligent, highly educated thoughtful man. Dr. Duke narrates this free copy of his book during the recent Israeli war on Lebanon and this timely commentary is extremely insightful. The Jews have much to answer for.
Jewish Supremacism
NO war for Israel!
I dunno how the mass media would have me believe he is but I know enough to realize that he isn’t worth spending more time listening to. I think it is a confusion of the first rate to conflate how intelligent, thoughtful and educated someone is with how reasonable their ideas turn out to be. I don’t doubt that I couldn’t find any “lies” because he believes what he says but I have no doubt that I could easily find faulty inferences and unsupported conclusions.
I hardly need to listen to everyone equally to figure out what is true. This is the same sort of biased idea that would have us listen to the global warming deniers just as much as we would listen to the scientific consensus.
If we only believed things after hearing equally from all sides we would never believe anything because we would never hear the crazy guy’s theory that actually everything you see is made up of dog snot that tricks you using it’s psychedelic properties into thinking it is something else. No, the way we decide on what to believe is by assessing what we believe to be more and less reliable sources and choosing our time accordingly.
I’m no more going to spend my time reading David Duke searching out his errors than I would spend my time reading the book of mormon. I have good reasons to believe ahead of time that their conclusions are so implausible that it isn’t worth my time to search out where they went wrong.
Dear TruePath,
Thank you for taking the time to respond to my post. I must admit that I find your post confusing.
TruePath: I think it is a confusion of the first rate to conflate how intelligent, thoughtful and educated someone is with how reasonable their ideas turn out to be. I don’t doubt that I couldn’t find any “lies” because he believes what he says but I have no doubt that I could easily find faulty inferences and unsupported conclusions.
WD: I do agree that any “reasonable” speech can be enticing. Perhaps any idea, no matter how foul, can be argued reasonably. It is not difficult to reason oneself into a trap. I also know that the measure of how intelligent someone is, is how much they agree with you. LOL Nevertheless, I have listened to this free book and I have read a lot of Dr. Duke’s writing. He is a former elected official of the US government and he holds a doctorate in history from a well regarded university (MAUP). I do believe that Dr. Duke is intelligent, thoughtful and educated. This belief (for or against) can only come from research. Otherwise I would have only the opinions of others for my thoughts. The “meat” of this book comes from the recorded actions and quotes of the greatest Jewish leaders of recorded history. Any opinions and beliefs of Dr. Duke are stated as such. I doubt very much that you could “easily find faulty inferences and unsupported conclusions”. It is mostly quotes, behaviors and actions which are not in question. History records them as being said and done.
TruePath: I hardly need to listen to everyone equally to figure out what is true. This is the same sort of biased idea that would have us listen to the global warming deniers just as much as we would listen to the scientific consensus.
WD: Perhaps not “equally”. Many times it is quickly apparent when someone is being deceptive or dishonest and no more time should be wasted with them. As far as global warming is concerned, my understanding is that the argument is about just how much mankind is contribiting to this warming cycle. The Earth has experienced many ice ages and will continue to do so with or without humans.
TruePath: If we only believed things after hearing equally from all sides we would never believe anything because we would never hear the crazy guy’s theory that actually everything you see is made up of dog snot that tricks you using it’s psychedelic properties into thinking it is something else. No, the way we decide on what to believe is by assessing what we believe to be more and less reliable sources and choosing our time accordingly.
WD: This is the confusing part for me. If “after hearing equally from all sides”, we would have heard “the crazy guy’s theory”. The crazy guy is but one more side to be considered. He reminds me of String Theory. LOL Nevertheless, I stand by my desire to informed of all possibilities. Reliable sources have been know to not be so reliable.
TruePath: I’m no more going to spend my time reading David Duke searching out his errors than I would spend my time reading the book of mormon. I have good reasons to believe ahead of time that their conclusions are so implausible that it isn’t worth my time to search out where they went wrong.
WD: I received the Book Of Morman once, I could not finish it.
Thanks again for your time and I wish you all the best.
WD
Well this is a very intersting post with very intersting comments. I have put together a speech of Abraham Foxman spliced together with voices who oppose the Anti-Defamation League’s views on the Israel Lobby. I think that in light of the current Israeli slaughter of more than 1000 Palestinians and the ADL’s takeover of YouTube, we should all take a listen to this.
The Israel Lobby Revisited.
http://www.archive.org/details/MythOfTheJewishLobby
Have a listen and decide for yourself who has the more reasonable view.