Comments on: Religion And Logic: Off The Deep End With Ann Coulter http://www.infiniteinjury.org/blog/2007/10/13/religion-and-logic-off-the-deep-end-with-ann-coulter/ Good Analysis, Bad Grammar Tue, 09 Mar 2010 05:18:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Jordan's Free Voices http://www.infiniteinjury.org/blog/2007/10/13/religion-and-logic-off-the-deep-end-with-ann-coulter/comment-page-1/#comment-701 Jordan's Free Voices Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:45:23 +0000 http://www.infiniteinjury.org/blog/2007/10/13/religion-and-logic-off-the-deep-end-with-ann-coulter/#comment-701 <p><strong>Tribalism as Bad Faith...</strong></p> <p>I know I've said all this before, but I wish more people would assess political bloggers (and contributions...</p> Tribalism as Bad Faith…

I know I’ve said all this before, but I wish more people would assess political bloggers (and contributions…

]]> By: TruePath http://www.infiniteinjury.org/blog/2007/10/13/religion-and-logic-off-the-deep-end-with-ann-coulter/comment-page-1/#comment-699 TruePath Sun, 14 Oct 2007 16:11:43 +0000 http://www.infiniteinjury.org/blog/2007/10/13/religion-and-logic-off-the-deep-end-with-ann-coulter/#comment-699 <p>If you want to criticize her for that go ahead. I'll probably join you. However, it wasn't like her claims her had two different interpretations one of which was anti-semitic and the other wasn't. Her statements here are pretty clear and reflect an obvious attempt to state the intellectual proposition that Christianity (well at least her mainstream version of it) entails the belief that it would be better if people were christians.</p> <p>Nothing Coulter has said in the past undermines the assumption that she might believe christianity is true and that therefore it would be even better if jews realized it was true. The fact she holds other stupid views doesn't make it improbable she believes this along with most other christians. Therefore the context you mention doesn't significantly decrease the probability that she meant exactly what I suggested she meant.</p> <p>Putting together this extremely tame sort of belief it seems Coulter was expressing here with crazy shit in the past doesn't show her to be any worse than her behavior in the past already did. You can't bootstrap off a non-event to get to a criticism you couldn't already make. I mean surely you aren't claiming that once you have been an ass in the past it is deeply morally wrong to express perfectly mild beliefs you have. Not only does it seem like a ridiculous rule it ensures that once someone has been an ass they have no reason to tone down.</p> <p>As far as I can see the context only explains why people would be eager to be made and outraged at Coulter. In other words it provides evidence that this might be motivated by something other than a fully objective attempt to interpret what happened.</p> If you want to criticize her for that go ahead. I’ll probably join you. However, it wasn’t like her claims her had two different interpretations one of which was anti-semitic and the other wasn’t. Her statements here are pretty clear and reflect an obvious attempt to state the intellectual proposition that Christianity (well at least her mainstream version of it) entails the belief that it would be better if people were christians.

Nothing Coulter has said in the past undermines the assumption that she might believe christianity is true and that therefore it would be even better if jews realized it was true. The fact she holds other stupid views doesn’t make it improbable she believes this along with most other christians. Therefore the context you mention doesn’t significantly decrease the probability that she meant exactly what I suggested she meant.

Putting together this extremely tame sort of belief it seems Coulter was expressing here with crazy shit in the past doesn’t show her to be any worse than her behavior in the past already did. You can’t bootstrap off a non-event to get to a criticism you couldn’t already make. I mean surely you aren’t claiming that once you have been an ass in the past it is deeply morally wrong to express perfectly mild beliefs you have. Not only does it seem like a ridiculous rule it ensures that once someone has been an ass they have no reason to tone down.

As far as I can see the context only explains why people would be eager to be made and outraged at Coulter. In other words it provides evidence that this might be motivated by something other than a fully objective attempt to interpret what happened.

]]> By: GSmith http://www.infiniteinjury.org/blog/2007/10/13/religion-and-logic-off-the-deep-end-with-ann-coulter/comment-page-1/#comment-697 GSmith Sun, 14 Oct 2007 00:40:48 +0000 http://www.infiniteinjury.org/blog/2007/10/13/religion-and-logic-off-the-deep-end-with-ann-coulter/#comment-697 <p>The difference between your belief that Jews should become atheists and her assertion that they should become christians is that you have not made a career out of asserting that people of other religions should have theur countries invaded, their leaders killed and be forcibly converted to christianity. Or that Supreme Court justices and presidential candidates you don't like should be murdered. Or that torture should be made a spectator sport. Or that anyone who does not think or vote the way you want should be denied basic human rights. It is impossible to ignore her previous statements when evaluating these. It is her defenders, not her critics, who are taking her remarks out of context.</p> The difference between your belief that Jews should become atheists and her assertion that they should become christians is that you have not made a career out of asserting that people of other religions should have theur countries invaded, their leaders killed and be forcibly converted to christianity. Or that Supreme Court justices and presidential candidates you don’t like should be murdered. Or that torture should be made a spectator sport. Or that anyone who does not think or vote the way you want should be denied basic human rights. It is impossible to ignore her previous statements when evaluating these. It is her defenders, not her critics, who are taking her remarks out of context.

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