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	<title>Comments on: Body Image, &#8216;Real&#8217; Women and Obesity</title>
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		<title>By: popsugar</title>
		<link>http://www.infiniteinjury.org/blog/2007/11/01/body-image-and-real-women/comment-page-1/#comment-14125</link>
		<dc:creator>popsugar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 17:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Edward your a stupid ass slim women are to good for you thats way you say mean things about them. your ugly so you have to stick with obese women men are ugly and us slim girls are better than them&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edward your a stupid ass slim women are to good for you thats way you say mean things about them. your ugly so you have to stick with obese women men are ugly and us slim girls are better than them</p>
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		<title>By: TruePath</title>
		<link>http://www.infiniteinjury.org/blog/2007/11/01/body-image-and-real-women/comment-page-1/#comment-8415</link>
		<dc:creator>TruePath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 12:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s always hard to appreciate how much the other gender suffers.  Most guys can&#039;t comprehend how a girl who, even if she is kinda plain, can sleep with a great many guys at the drop of a hat and yet is suffering.  Men and women want (for social and biological reasons) different things and hence are upset by different things and that&#039;s very important to remember.  Also, while women can be relatively open about the suffering that unsuccessful dating puts them through society punishes men when they cross the line from bitching to admitting how horrible they feel.  To make matters worse admitting to the real pain (as opposed to frustration) on their side of the equation would screw men over in the dating scene.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Except for the smallest of percents (true on both sides) even pretty chubby women are pursued by men who want to sleep with them.  Of course those men often aren&#039;t offering what they want so they turn them down.  The situation is perfectly symetric with both genders, especially the less desierable ones, being denied what they want.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sure, girls feel bad about being unattractive and undeseriable.  They want to be flirted with and asked out on dates.  But don&#039;t underestimate the number of men who feel insecure and unable to attract female interest.  Young men see hundreds of girls they want to sleep with every day, including ones who are chubby, and their frequent failure to have sex with them leaves them feeling like a failure.  The guys might prefer to have sex with a more attractive girl but being turned down by someone who is self-pitying about their attractiveness is an extra blow.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Ultimately, dating is pretty much a zero sum game.  Both sexes are in the same situation of competining for mates.  Many guys are horribly insecure.  I mean how else could it be that simply asking a girl for her number, objectively a simple task, could inspire so much fear and reluctance in men.  At least girls can sympathize with each other about their predicaments rather than giving each other shit about not impressing the other sex.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Do girls get hollered at?  Sure.  But women are also incredibly harsh to men who express interest in them.  It&#039;s not that most of these girls are evil, it&#039;s that girls often feel offended, disgusted and even intimidated when a boy they find unattractive tries to pick them up.  However, while some guys just have no class the difference between a smile and a number or a hurtful reaction that says you&#039;re a slimeball is merely whether she finds you attractive.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In short dating blows goats.  Women are probably evolved to be disgusted and intimidated by men they find unattractive to avoid rape and evolutionarily disadvantageous sex while men have similar incentives to pretend they are confident and sucesful and hide their insecurities.  Frankly, I would have taken getting hollered at from cars growing up rather than being the one who had to approach women in clubs and bars and get crushed at my most vulnerable.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Ohh yah just to add another point.  Studies have shown HUGE effects on women&#039;s estimation of attractiveness based on the man&#039;s reported income (like the physically most unattractive male photo bumped up to the near the top when women were told he made 300k).  That might sound like a good thing but it&#039;s really just the opposite.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I mean not only does this double the stress but it means men have to put all their eggs in one basket.  I mean a man who does worse professionally is thus much more screwed.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s always hard to appreciate how much the other gender suffers.  Most guys can&#8217;t comprehend how a girl who, even if she is kinda plain, can sleep with a great many guys at the drop of a hat and yet is suffering.  Men and women want (for social and biological reasons) different things and hence are upset by different things and that&#8217;s very important to remember.  Also, while women can be relatively open about the suffering that unsuccessful dating puts them through society punishes men when they cross the line from bitching to admitting how horrible they feel.  To make matters worse admitting to the real pain (as opposed to frustration) on their side of the equation would screw men over in the dating scene.</p>
<p>Except for the smallest of percents (true on both sides) even pretty chubby women are pursued by men who want to sleep with them.  Of course those men often aren&#8217;t offering what they want so they turn them down.  The situation is perfectly symetric with both genders, especially the less desierable ones, being denied what they want.</p>
<p>Sure, girls feel bad about being unattractive and undeseriable.  They want to be flirted with and asked out on dates.  But don&#8217;t underestimate the number of men who feel insecure and unable to attract female interest.  Young men see hundreds of girls they want to sleep with every day, including ones who are chubby, and their frequent failure to have sex with them leaves them feeling like a failure.  The guys might prefer to have sex with a more attractive girl but being turned down by someone who is self-pitying about their attractiveness is an extra blow.</p>
<p>Ultimately, dating is pretty much a zero sum game.  Both sexes are in the same situation of competining for mates.  Many guys are horribly insecure.  I mean how else could it be that simply asking a girl for her number, objectively a simple task, could inspire so much fear and reluctance in men.  At least girls can sympathize with each other about their predicaments rather than giving each other shit about not impressing the other sex.</p>
<p>Do girls get hollered at?  Sure.  But women are also incredibly harsh to men who express interest in them.  It&#8217;s not that most of these girls are evil, it&#8217;s that girls often feel offended, disgusted and even intimidated when a boy they find unattractive tries to pick them up.  However, while some guys just have no class the difference between a smile and a number or a hurtful reaction that says you&#8217;re a slimeball is merely whether she finds you attractive.</p>
<p>In short dating blows goats.  Women are probably evolved to be disgusted and intimidated by men they find unattractive to avoid rape and evolutionarily disadvantageous sex while men have similar incentives to pretend they are confident and sucesful and hide their insecurities.  Frankly, I would have taken getting hollered at from cars growing up rather than being the one who had to approach women in clubs and bars and get crushed at my most vulnerable.</p>
<p>Ohh yah just to add another point.  Studies have shown HUGE effects on women&#8217;s estimation of attractiveness based on the man&#8217;s reported income (like the physically most unattractive male photo bumped up to the near the top when women were told he made 300k).  That might sound like a good thing but it&#8217;s really just the opposite.</p>
<p>I mean not only does this double the stress but it means men have to put all their eggs in one basket.  I mean a man who does worse professionally is thus much more screwed.</p>
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		<title>By: edward,</title>
		<link>http://www.infiniteinjury.org/blog/2007/11/01/body-image-and-real-women/comment-page-1/#comment-5682</link>
		<dc:creator>edward,</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 21:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Im a 48 yr old man nice looking and nice manners but not a wimp or macho,
i see alot of totally insecure jerk&#039;s out there that have no manners and are all mouth and no backbone,
If I had my choice,
Id line all the jerks up and take them out,
i dont know why woman go for someone that dont have anything or that has no manners, or totally insecure,
Id much more have a woman thats a little on the chunky side, not totally over weight as thats unhealthy, but not like the so called models on TV that are in fatuaTED BYTHEMselves, and into nothing in life when it gets down to it,
I dont kno what it takes but I guess being normal with good upbringing  and interested in alot of things is boring to some woman,i like to touch and kiss and love on a woman, 
i mean is there anyone out there with some feelings and personality that likes to go on walks and likes to talk in a cafe and not in a hurry for thier job or is a darn bossy know it all?
too many of them out therer and too many cauht up in the so called career thing,
If theres a lady or girl out there that down to earth and likes to talk andn ISNT IN A HURRY AND HAS TO HAVE HER LITTLE FRIENDS AROUND then get ahold of me ok,
claire get ahold of me ok if your there,
I know right what you mean and I am right there with you and I like to hug and hold a woman when shes down and make her feel better and talk to her with out her feeling like im trying to make the move on her and realize im for her and not gonna go and do things with dumb guys  like stupid drinking and acting off  or being mouthy,
I mean Is that too much to ask???
Dear God??????&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im a 48 yr old man nice looking and nice manners but not a wimp or macho,<br />
i see alot of totally insecure jerk&#8217;s out there that have no manners and are all mouth and no backbone,<br />
If I had my choice,<br />
Id line all the jerks up and take them out,<br />
i dont know why woman go for someone that dont have anything or that has no manners, or totally insecure,<br />
Id much more have a woman thats a little on the chunky side, not totally over weight as thats unhealthy, but not like the so called models on TV that are in fatuaTED BYTHEMselves, and into nothing in life when it gets down to it,<br />
I dont kno what it takes but I guess being normal with good upbringing  and interested in alot of things is boring to some woman,i like to touch and kiss and love on a woman,<br />
i mean is there anyone out there with some feelings and personality that likes to go on walks and likes to talk in a cafe and not in a hurry for thier job or is a darn bossy know it all?<br />
too many of them out therer and too many cauht up in the so called career thing,<br />
If theres a lady or girl out there that down to earth and likes to talk andn ISNT IN A HURRY AND HAS TO HAVE HER LITTLE FRIENDS AROUND then get ahold of me ok,<br />
claire get ahold of me ok if your there,<br />
I know right what you mean and I am right there with you and I like to hug and hold a woman when shes down and make her feel better and talk to her with out her feeling like im trying to make the move on her and realize im for her and not gonna go and do things with dumb guys  like stupid drinking and acting off  or being mouthy,<br />
I mean Is that too much to ask???<br />
Dear God??????</p>
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		<title>By: claire</title>
		<link>http://www.infiniteinjury.org/blog/2007/11/01/body-image-and-real-women/comment-page-1/#comment-5672</link>
		<dc:creator>claire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 13:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yea but the male specis can be a harsh one. I have many friends of all shapes and sizes and it amazes me how men can ignore overweight girls because they do not want to sleep with them.  My friend who is over weight has had cars of boys drive past and yell obsenities at her. And has rung me crying and when you feel that bad a big mac looks pretty good. I dont think males are subjected to such public humilation as often.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea but the male specis can be a harsh one. I have many friends of all shapes and sizes and it amazes me how men can ignore overweight girls because they do not want to sleep with them.  My friend who is over weight has had cars of boys drive past and yell obsenities at her. And has rung me crying and when you feel that bad a big mac looks pretty good. I dont think males are subjected to such public humilation as often.</p>
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		<title>By: edward</title>
		<link>http://www.infiniteinjury.org/blog/2007/11/01/body-image-and-real-women/comment-page-1/#comment-1317</link>
		<dc:creator>edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 15:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I go gaga over a woman thats  a little on the large  side but not too much, shes got more to love and alot more down to earth it seems than slim skinny ones,
I mean i wanna grab her and never let her go,
I mean if igo somewhere and i see  woman 
the slightly bigger ones are always alot more giving to memthan the skinny slim, or hot body ones,
I guess alot of slim ones  are out for money and the more fulll woman have a big  heart, and arnt conserned  with thier looks soo much but how to love others  more and be there foor another person&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I go gaga over a woman thats  a little on the large  side but not too much, shes got more to love and alot more down to earth it seems than slim skinny ones,<br />
I mean i wanna grab her and never let her go,<br />
I mean if igo somewhere and i see  woman<br />
the slightly bigger ones are always alot more giving to memthan the skinny slim, or hot body ones,<br />
I guess alot of slim ones  are out for money and the more fulll woman have a big  heart, and arnt conserned  with thier looks soo much but how to love others  more and be there foor another person</p>
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		<title>By: Educated Guesswork</title>
		<link>http://www.infiniteinjury.org/blog/2007/11/01/body-image-and-real-women/comment-page-1/#comment-705</link>
		<dc:creator>Educated Guesswork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 02:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;On body image and selfishness...&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Truepath objects to complaints about the way that women&#039;s bodies are portrayed in media: So I&#039;ve long been disgusted by the socially approval of complaints about models being too skinny and demands that &#039;real&#039; women, i.e., less skinny women, be......&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>On body image and selfishness&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Truepath objects to complaints about the way that women&#8217;s bodies are portrayed in media: So I&#8217;ve long been disgusted by the socially approval of complaints about models being too skinny and demands that &#8216;real&#8217; women, i.e., less skinny women, be&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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