Sharon’s Thesis Draft: The Nature Of Mathematical Knowledge

So my fiance Sharon Berry posted a very early (like 2 years early) draft of her thesis on a wiki here. The broad question she is addressing is how we can come to have accurate mathematical knowledge which I figured might be of interest to some people who check out the philosophy part of my blog. I also figured I’d take this chance to share my own thoughts on the subject. However, to give credit where credit is due I would never have really thought through these issues if Sharon hadn’t brought up the subject and many of the ideas are really hers. However, I take them in a very different direction than she does.

The really short version of my attitude to the problem of mathematical knowledge is “What Problem?” I mean obviously mathematical knowledge is subject to the same skeptical doubts that other forms of knowledge are but I’m unconvinced that there is any particular problem unique to mathematical knowledge. More specifically I would say that mathematical knowledge is nothing but a limiting case of other sorts of knowledge so it poses no problem over and above the problem of understanding the meaning and our knowledge of other sorts of statements. Of course explaining meaning is a notoriously difficult problem in it’s own right but I’m tempted to think that it’s a hopeless problem. Ultimately one must merely take meaning to be a primitive concept but that’s another discussion.

I need to get back to working on my thesis so I won’t give more than a very very quick sketch of my thoughts here but roughly I take it there are two primary reasons one might think that mathematical knowledge requires special explanation.

  1. The Benacerraf problem: How could we come to know anything about numbers if they don’t have causal powers, we don’t interact with them and so forth.
  2. How could it be that our mathematical theories turn out to be useful in the way they are.

Platonism and Reference

So if one accepts a platonic theory of mathematical meaning then there may indeed be special problems about mathematical knowledge. That is if the meaning of a statement like 2+2 =4 is really that some special 2 object out there bears a certain relation to itself and the four object one might wonder how it is that we come to know about these platonic objects. However, I’m inclined to simply turn the question around and ask whether the platonic theory in question provides any reason to think that “2″ refers to something we would ‘recognize’ as an integer or whether it could (logically not metaphysically) be that 2 refers to the concept of bunny rabbits and all our statements about arithmetic are really nonsensical. If the platonic interpretation of mathematics tells us that the reference of two must really behave like 2 to qualify as the correct reference then we know exactly how we come to have true beliefs about the numbers — because if our beliefs weren’t largely true we would be talking about something else[^enough]. On the other hand if we don’t have any restrictions about what sort of platonic object 2 might refer to then we aren’t justified in adopting this kind of theory in the first place.

Unfortunately the debate about Platonism and competing philosophies of mathematical largely distracts from what I think are the important issues. As I’ve argued previously Platonism in and of itself says very little about mathematics. What the last paragraph as well as my previous post on the issue emphasize is that it isn’t really Platonism that is doing the work it is your theory of reference. Really on it’s own Platonism says nothing very significant1, it’s the means by which our talk maps to particular platonic objects that really does the work in the theory. This raises the obvious question of what we even mean when we say that the reference of a certain term is such and such. Are we merely making a claim about dispositions and talk or are we invoking some real metaphysical relation. While Platonism provides a good motivation to consider the issue I think a proper examination of this question of what sort of thing the meaning relation is in the first place illustrates the non-problem of philosophy of mathematics in general.

Platonic Realism About Reference

There are two ways one could understand claims about meaning and reference One could think that the relation of meaning is a truly objective notion with metaphysical substance. That is that the relation between words/mental states/speaking contexts is some and references/meanings is something like a platonic entity in it’s own right. On such a theory it is presumably logically possible (but not metaphysically) that when I say “2″ it really (by virtue of this objectively existing meaning relation) refers to rabbit. In other words the meaning of word is a notion much like the moral status of an action under on a realist moral theory.

Just as with moral realism I think the appropriate response to this notion of meaning is to challenge that it counts as meaning at all. Ultimately there is just this relation out there mapping situations/worlds/utterances/mental states/whatever to references/intentions but why should we think this picks out what we talk about when we use the term meaning? Additionally on this sort of platonic realism about meaning we don’t have any reason to actually believe that we really do have knowledge. After all maybe the objective meaning relation isn’t what we think it is at all and what we take to be true statements aren’t true at all.

One might still be tempted to insist that obviously we have knowledge thus the fact that this theory can’t explain this fact is a puzzle requiring explanation. However, this simply gets things backwards and implicitly rejects the very assumptions of the theory itself. If we accept this sort of theory we need to just bite the bullet and say we don’t know if we really know anything and thus how we know things doesn’t require explanation. Personally I think our intuition that our usage determines meaning is a good reason to reject this sort of theory but in either case this leaves no special problems for mathematics. Of course you might try and say that the mapping between statements and meanings/references must obey certain restrctions but this does no good at all since of course any actual map will have some facts that are true of it but this does nothing to offer us reason to think we have any knowledge of what they are.

Naturalist Theories of Meaning

I think a much more promising approach2 is to jettison all the metaphysical baggage and start from the assumption that meanings, ultimately must be defined in terms of sounds, dispositions, actions and other arrangements of matter. That is nothing special or magical goes on with meanings. They are just a concept introduced to organize very complicated descriptions of human behavior in terms of atoms and physical laws. Thus the ultimate standard against which we judge a theory of meaning is it’s predictive accuracy and theoretical utility (how well does it work with other models we wish to use). In some sense already this approach should suggest that there shouldn’t be any deep paradoxes in terms of meaning. After all we are confident that the description of human behavior at the level of atoms is consistant thus any apparent difficulty at the level of meanings either reflects a confusion on our part or a poor choice of definition.

To put the point a bit differently we should think about a theory of meaning much the way we think about thermodynamics as derived from statistical mechanics. Yes, it can be a powerful theory with useful concepts and important impacts but ultimately just as debates about whether entropy is the log of the number of possible states holding X,Y and Z fixed or just X and Y doesn’t reflect any fundamental fact about the universe but a definitional choice we make that is judged on it’s utility. Thus theories like fictionalism or formalism shouldn’t be understood as making different philosophical claims but rather judged simply on their utility in predicting how people actually use words. Indeed one might very well conclude that different models are most appropriate in different circumstances.

Ultimately then the question about how we can come to have mathematical knowledge is largely a non-question. I can point to the actual ways that mathematicians prove theorems and reach conclusions and that right there shows how we come to have mathematical knowledge. Still one might ask but why are the results of our proofs actually true? However, this has a totally trivial answer. The reason that proofs give us true mathematical results is that every step of the proof is truth preserving. Indeed we can go through this and using the fact (in the meta-language) that A and B is true if and only if A is true or B is true show that the methods mathematicans use to reach theorems really do produce true theorems. Asking for anything more is a demand to know why logic is true. Obviously at a very basic level we have to just assume that logic is true (see Quine’s arguments about this point in his discussions of radial translation) so it’s unclear what is left to be explained at all.

To put the point slightly differently it’s contradictory to worry about how we get mathematics correct. Either the question tells us how we have reason to believe we do get mathematics right, in which case it tells us the answer or it offers no such explanation and we have no need to explain a phenomena that we don’t have reason to accept as true.

Usefullness of Mathematics

This finally brings us to the question of why mathematics turns out to be useful. One might think that it’s surprising that the results of mathematics tells us useful things about the world. Certainly in one sense it is surprising, but that’s the sense in which the understandability of the world is surprsing, i.e., that induction works. While it may appear that mathematics directly makes predictions about the world (if I have two apples in my bag and place another two apples into my bag I have four apples in my bag) in fact it’s only the combination of mathematical theorems with contingent bridge laws that makes these predictions (apples don’t appear or disappear when I place more of them together). One might try and minimize the significance of these bridge laws by saying something like “So long as apples don’t appear or disappear the number of apples in my bag is the number of apples I added minus the number I removed.” However, this merely begs the question by working in our expectation that the plus operation on the natural numbers describes how objects behave into the definition of appear or disappear. I could equally well claim that apples were disappearing and reappearing all the time but if they didn’t do so we could see that adding n apples to a bag with m apples in it results in a bag with n x m apples in it.

In fact the usefulness of something like mathematics is an easy consequence of a well known theorem in recursion theory. Supposing we have a language complex enough to express arbitrary procedures3 then that language will contain infinitely many different ways to state the same procedure, some subset of which will be possible to construct a verification that they are equivalent. In other words no matter how weird your language is you can’t get around the fact that some things will turn out to be non-obviously equivalent which suggests that it will be useful to have a means to identify at least some of them.

Usefullness and Knowledge

The final worry is that one might try and link the two concepts and ask how it is that we come to have mathematical knowledge that yields useful results. Thus even if we don’t have abstract reasons to believe that the syntactic manipulations of mathematicians meet some independent standard of being true we do notice that they let us build rockets and cure disease and the like. Thus one might think the utility of mathematics requires some explanation.

Once again though I think a careful examination of the question reveals it to be a non-worry. If by mathematics you merely mean the sort of thing that mathematicians do then it’s undeniable that what counts as mathematics is partially determined by what is useful. While many types of mathematics are very abstract the subject in the large is influenced by what has solved problems presented by the world. This point is made even more forcefully if you try to define mathematics as any abstract rule based manipulation of symbols. After all under such a definition certain types of astrology would qualify which most assuredly is not useful. Similarly any other means by which you tried to formally define the problem is likely to either reduce to triviality or not call our for any explanation at all.

This was a pretty hurried and scattered explanation of my thouhts so hopefully people ould follow it. If you are confused but curious about what I’m trying to say anyway feel free to post a comment or ask me via email


  1. Well on a standard view of existence it might add things to your ontology. However, if you took a more Quineian reading you might merely understand existence claims as being nothing but a disposition to quantify over the class. 

  2. I don’t necessarily believe this myself but this has to do with issues in the philosophy of mind that are beyond the scope of this post. Certainly this would be the theory I would believe if I wasn’t a (property) dualist. 

  3. To be precisce we also need to add that the language is sane in the sense that we can actually figure out how to implement the procedure from it’s description. Obviously this isn’t going to be true for every procedure in the language but all I need is that the language can express notions like: start counting from 0 and look for the first number which is divided by 2 and 3. 

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Wow awesome! I can’t believe you braved the chaos of the wiki, and am most excited to see your (more recent) opinion. We should argue more in person but I have a quick question now:

How is the sense in which you say that “math doesn’t directly make predictions about the world” in the paragraph quoted below not equally well a sense in which astronomy “doesn’t directly make predictions about the world”? Astronomy never tells you what you will see directly, only via bridge laws about your eyes and telescopes working right. You could always say that all there is in the sky is a colossal floating pink elephant, which we could see if we looked, if only our eyes didn’t always go in the fritz.

“While it may appear that mathematics directly makes predictions about the world (if I have two apples in my bag and place another two apples into my bag I have four apples in my bag) in fact it’s only the combination of mathematical theorems with contingent bridge laws that makes these predictions (apples don’t appear or disappear when I place more of them together). One might try and minimize the significance of these bridge laws by saying something like “So long as apples don’t appear or disappear the number of apples in my bag is the number of apples I added minus the number I removed.” However, this merely begs the question by working in our expectation that the plus operation on the natural numbers describes how objects behave into the definition of appear or disappear. I could equally well claim that apples were disappearing and reappearing all the time but if they didn’t do so we could see that adding n apples to a bag with m apples in it results in a bag with n x m apples in it”

The sense in which “if there are exactly 2 red apples in the bag and exactly 2 green apples in the bag at 12:00 and no red apples are green apples then there are 4 red-or-green apples” and “the earth spins at such and such a rate as it goes around the sun” predicts stuff about the world correctly is not that one can reconcile these claims with any recalcitrant experience. As Quine pointed out one can reconcile any theory with observation, provided one is willing to make suitable adjustments to the rest of one’s theory (e.g. our telescopes systematically fail when we look at the sun, or it’s possible to steal apples through a bag without damaging the bag, and there’s an apple stealer who is only interested in stealing apples when there are being counted).

Rather, astronomy and concrete arithmetic ‘make correct predictions about the world’ (to the extent that any single theory – rather than a whole web of belief – can) in the sense that combining them with everything else we have reason to believe results in novel predictions that match up with what we actually observe. That is when combined with our other beliefs about the world, 2+2=4 yields the right thing about what you will get when you count the apples right off the bat! It says: expect to find 4 apples if the bag is still intact, less than 4 there’s a whole in the bag, maybe 0 if there’s a hole and you have been walking through a bad neighborhood. 2+2=5 can only be made to yield the right predictions if we give up a lot else that we thought we knew about apples, physics etc.

Basically my question is: why doesn’t everything you are saying about math not making direct observable predictions apply to astronomy?

How is the sense in which you say that “math doesn’t directly make predictions about the world” in the paragraph quoted below not equally well a sense in which astronomy “doesn’t directly make predictions about the world”?

Sure, in one sense this is true but that isn’t in conflict with my point. I’m exactly saying that there isn’t anything special about math+bridge laws as opposed to astronomy + bridge laws.

What I’m saying is that many of the apparent problems about mathematical knowledge disappear if we are sufficiently precise. There is no problem about why mathematics is useful because mathematics itself is not useful. There is a problem about why math+bridge laws is a useful theory but math+bridge laws is not fundamentally different in kind from astronomy=bridge laws so it doesn’t call out for any special explanation over any above a general explanation of how we gain scientific knowledge.

I mean imagine someone said, “Isn’t it amazing that English sentences can be used to make predictions about the stars. How could it possibly be that these sentences could tell us useful things about the stars?” The correct response would not be to further his misunderstanding and assign some deep theory to English sentences but rather point out that English sentences themselves make no predictions about astronomy at all. Rather it is the sentences in astronomy textbooks/papers/whatever in combination with certain methods and rules (bridge laws) that together make predictions about the stars.

Now I agree it is a deep puzzling question as to why there is a simple useful theory about stars (or object persistance) but it’s simply misguided to think that there is a deep quesiton about why english sentences seem so useful in make astronomical predictions. Given any useful theory we can always point out properties it has (being written in english) but just noticing that our theory has some property (written in english) doesn’t raise any puzzling questions. Of course if you found out that all possible ways of creating a useful predictive theory of the stars had to be formulated in English that would call out for an explanation.

Is it the case that mathematics is necessary to create useful predictive theories? If mathematics means something that human mathematicians would recognize and understand as mathematics I’m unconvinced. While it may be true that humans all use recognizably similar ‘mathematical’ processes to reach scientific predictions this is no more profound than the fact that all human languages share certain regularities but why should we believe that all aliens, or more generally most succesful beings in most possible worlds use something we would recognize as math to make their predictions? Ironically, it would seem the only time we would be justified in demanding an explanation of why math is so useful is if we already had an answer in the form of an argument showing that math is uniquely useful in making predictions about the world.

Of course you might try and avoid this issue by defining math much more generally. Mathematics, one might say, is some observation independent way of moving from one set of beliefs (understood here as dispositions to respond to external stimuli) to another set of beliefs. However, the need for a system like this is answered by my point about the indexing theorem in recursion theory. Given any way computable way of representing sufficiently complex descriptions of the world there will always be multiple ways to refer to the same state and some computably enumerable means to search for equivalences amoung these descriptions. If that’s all it means to be mathematics then we already know why it’s useful.

Basically my question is: why doesn’t everything you are saying about math not making direct observable predictions apply to astronomy?

More or less it does. That’s the point. Just as there are no substantial problems in the philosophy of astronomy over and above those in the philosophy of science in general there are also no special problems in the philosophy of math.

 
 
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